Biology of Trauma® Podcast

With Dr. Aimie Apigian MD, MS, MPH

Episode 10

What Role Did Addressing Unresolved Emotions Play In Helping Someone With Progressive MS? With Dr. Arielle Schwartz, Part 3

Show Notes

Today on Biology of Trauma, we conclude our series with Dr. Arielle Schwartz on identifying trauma and addressing the freeze response. In this episode, we hear a story of hope from Laura Bautista, a 21-day journey graduate who recovered from MS by healing her trauma.

Laura was diagnosed with degenerative MS at age 21. Western medicine determined that she had a bleak future of pain, loss of function, and even death. Like all autoimmune diseases, many seemingly random symptoms were dismissed and normalized throughout her life. It wasn’t until she discovered functional medicine that Laura learned to listen to her body. For seven years, Laura slowly detoxed and began tracking her nervous system leading to a full recovery from what was diagnosed as a progressive disease.

There was never an exterior event to pin Laura’s traumatic response on. However, tracking built awareness that allowed her to remove barriers to her healing. The body is naturally designed to heal itself, but stress, unhealthy foods, and lifestyles burden your body. This capacity exists within every person, and somatic tools are resources along your journey to your natural state of wellness. Simply, learning to slow down saved Laura’s life.



  • [2:20] Laura’s story from progressive MS to 10 years symptom-free 
  • [4:40] Auto-immune diseases progress over the years until it becomes extreme enough to diagnose 
  • [9:00] Shifting focus from the disease to restoring function to the body
  • [14:58] The body heals itself when it feels calm, not when you demand it to be calm 
  • [15:55] Removing barriers to healing because the body is designed to constantly heal 
  • [18:55] Presence heals trauma, not cathartic therapies that retraumatize the mind and body 
  • [20:38] How to access a safe place to stop the spiraling
  • [23:20] Tracking is a basic tool that allows you to build awareness and gain perspective 
  • [24:28] How the pace of life influences your health and differentiating stress from trauma 
  • [27:42] Integrating stillness and observation into life inhibits stress from progressing into trauma 
  • [33:00] Finding hope when life feels out of control
  • [35:10] Detoxing from what you are not so that you can come home to yourself

Products I recommend from this episode

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